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Pronation is not only good, it's a necessary movement. Bones and joints are not designed to only go one way, but in fact have the capacity to travel in both directions and in in the majority of cases in three planes of motion too (particularly in the foot). Supination without pronation is inadequate in the same way as pronation without supination is inadequate. We need both for effective, efficient and pain free movmeent in the feet.

@@GaryWard_anatomyinmotion I see. Thanks for the reply :b

@@GaryWard_anatomyinmotion Any suggestions for someone who has a race next week and suddenly has what feels like mild peroneal tendonitis? I'm perhaps irresponsibly determined to run the race after the training I've put in :D Thinking about taping it up for support.

@@cyberfiles8076 There is only one thing to do. Teach your feet to pronate better. To give the peroneals the opportunity to experience their full role in the motion of the foot. My Wake Your Feet Up programme (£14.99) can show you how we do it. It is supported by wedges which depending where you are based may not get to you in time, but am sure you can fill up a towel to get started. Hope this helps

Knee bending when walking is obviously much quieter than that, however the appropriate knee & foot mechanics should stil take place and in order to re-educate and demonstrate those, it is necessary to exaggerate the movements :) Thanks for your question. Gary

beBackLater - that's a thought! I so would love to see/hear Gary's assessment.

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Hey. Sorry I haven't seen this before! Thanks for your question. Pronation is a necessary human movement, required in walking and running for sure. It's an uncoonscious movement and certainly not one we can consciously input. People don't know how to pronate so it has to be taught and learnt rather than actively carried out. Pronation is such a subtle movement. We are used to seeing grossly exaggerated collapsing of feet, I would argue this is not pronation. Pronation for me is a culmination of specific movement in each of the three planes of motion. A collapsing foot is going to be demonstrating excess in one plane and less in another, creating an imblance in the foot and rippling through the body. You don't want that in your squat or your run or even when you walk. Can we re-edcuate feet to do better? Absolutely. By understanding the mechanics of the feet better and setting the parameters and limits for a good pronation. When the foot pronates, there is a very specific response required in the hips. If the foot is not moving, that response can be altered and free choice given to the hip, thereby affecting movement in the pelvis, the other hip and the opposite leg/foot as well. A pronating foot should create a hip flexion and adduction and encourage the pelvis to rotate away from itself. Anything else, will limit the foot's pronation, compromise movement in the spine and restrict what is possible in the other foot too. That's a lot of issues from a foot not communicating well with the hip. Hope this is useful for you :) Gary

Hi This is on our website findingcentre.co.uk/wakeyourfeetup/ Apologies for not seeing this until now :)

Where are you located? We have online programmes to begin the journey. Are you on Instagram? Take a look @garyward_aim or visit the website www.findingcentre.co.uk

Hi Gayle. Thanks for your message here. So glad we can be of service. There are many layers to this work, and most of it comes down to understanding your anatomy. This is the goal of our online programmes which can be found on www.findingcentre.co.uk. Internal rotation limitation is normally due to your femur already being internally rotated so in most cases and contrary to popular belief internally rotating MORE is usually not the answer. If your feet are more flat than high arched, this is most likely you as well. I recommend having a look at our Wake Your Feet Up programme to begin to more specifically target your feet, knees, hips and pelvis. Hope this helps :) Gary

Similar I guess in that it is a ‘whole’-istic way if looking at the human body. The difference is that Tom Myers is looking at it from the perspective of the fascia whereas I am looking at it from the perspective of the skeletal system and how it moves through the walking cycle. In my book What The Foot? I describe how in my opinion, in closed chain movement, joints ACT and muscles REACT, which for me gives the skeletal system a higher logical level than the fascia. Both systems of course being super important for our health in human movement :)

@@GaryWard_anatomyinmotion thanks, been very interested in your work, have the wake your body up series, must get the book next. It will help clear of some of the rust

How did you find a practitioner in your area? I am in Poole Dorset.

or perhaps a better way to say that is they tend to stay shifted to the right and spend more time on that foot

Sean O'Hara You are welcome. Not in my experience Sean. There are a huge combination of ways we organise and hold ourselves based on our life history more than a pre-determined anatomical set up. Hope that helps?

@@GaryWard_anatomyinmotion It does, I am asking because there is a school of thought (Postural Restoration Institute) that talks a lot about natural anatomical asymmetries(mainly the diaphragm shape) that drive patterning that keeps people shifted right and rotated left through the spine (see: michalenglo's David sculpture). Like yourself, I have begun using drawing as a way to make sense of all this shape-making we do. Are you aware of PRI and the models that focus a lot on airflow and fluid flow?

I have recently been found to be left shifted and right rotated, and also found that when I stand still and upright my right foot turns out everything so slightly more than my left. I had a severe right ankle sprain about 20yrs ago and often found I would turn my foot out to stop me going over on it again

It’s an AM cube force plate using Footwork Pro. Mar-systems in UK distribute worldwide.

This video is highlighting an external rotation of the femur and a left rotation of the lumbar spine. Reading your comment I am not sure we are saying anything different? For what it’s worth I would never invite a person to run by having them throw their arms across their body, but it might be worth considering that those who do are doing it for good reason (to overcome a lack in their body, such as hip extension or lumbar rotation perhaps) - among other things. My whole system is based on joint mechanics and it’s influence on muscle tissue. I know that isn’t the norm and that fascia and muscle are most peoples predominant though in their anatomical work. Which is all good. I offer a second side of that coin for your consideration :)